Borrowing a reference from the popular sitcom, Seinfeld, I have been attacked by what I consider, in my opinion, the village "Blog Nazi," none other than Trustee Verciglio. Verciglio has repeatedly asked me to apologize for my blog and has over the last week suggested I remove certain language from my blog. I appreciate that he is an avid reader of the blog and website, however, that's all he is; he nor anyone else shall dictate my blog and website. His statements and suggestions which border an ultimatum in my opinion, have come in the form of email. He is not the only elected official who has attacked me for my blog, but he is the most aggressive in my opinion and in my opinion to wants to control me in the boardroom and on my blog. His attacks don't end with me; he recently suggested that village resident, Mr. Ptak apologize at the next board meeting for
"misinforming" the public. It is this kind of mean arrogance that has divided this village. If a resident is misinformed or doesn't understand something, it is in my opinion, a knee-jerk reaction for certain elected officials to attack and demand apologies and recants etc... The village officials or employees can correct residents and ensure they are properly informed, but to ask a resident to apologize: the nerve! If the majority of this board and our Mayor is concerned about residents being properly informed, they can make moves to be more transparent, beginning with full disclosure via our village website; instead their focus, in my opinion, is on how to control me and the bookends with board policies; and the new FOIA law! Oh my, apparently it is an issue for some that the village may as well open up our file cabinets. Why do some in the government think public business is not the public's business?This is what the hotly contested appointed trustee concerns himself with? If there was any wonder why three trustees contested the appointment of this trustee, I hope it is clear now.
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Isn't this an open meetings violation, for the trustees to send e-mail back and forth? I would check the manual, but I believe this is exactly what the act is about, to prevent discussions behind the scenes. Correct me if I am wrong. Information can be sent out but NOT replied to.
"Correct me if I am wrong. Information can be sent out but NOT replied to".
Why not? This way, you can see the reply, instead of guessing what they talk about over the phone or at Farmers.
How old are you Verciglio? Reliving your high school days? This is equal to putting Lauries pigtails in the inkwell.
Hey, YOU LOST, and slick manuvering and lies got you safely back on the board. Now get back to work you old fool. Oh yeah, I forgot this IS your job.
Laurie
I personally would not make a big deal out of
Verciglio. You might do better to ignore him.
This is coming from an individual that was appointed as Mayor Herrmann's hit man to do her dirty work. Verciglio, I believe, I spelled it correct, has problems with sentence structure and spelling. He will criticize you if you spell his name wrong. He has never amounted to anything his whole life and this is his crowning achievement being a trustee with power. He certainly likes to wield his scepter to try to intimidate people. My advice is to just ignore him. His intelligence is duly lacking.
Verciglio was not at the meeting that he is insisting Ptak apologize for what he said. How did he find out what Joe said, oh yeah, he must have listened to the meeting on the blog. Thanks, Laurie for making this available, it seems even the trustees are taking advantage of this opportunity.
Laurie,
The RESIDENTS of Island Lake applaud your efforts to get information out to us on the ongoings of Island Lake (political, governmental, leisure, and otherwise). If Trustee Verciglio insists on criticizing your inability to reach the 8000+ residents of this village, perhaps he would authorize publicizing links to the WHIIL & CBGIL websites on www.villageofislandlake.com as the village itself has failed to inform the public of their ongoings in anything but antiquated systems, if at all. If the village gets to consider posting a piece of paper on a bulletin board in the village hall as residential notification of meetings, etc., how could one question the outreach of a public blog that is available to all who have internet access?
Wow, I know for a fact that ideas and opportunities have been presented (ARRA, for one, not to mention the ideas/requests that I have submitted) that have yet to be acted upon. I wish MY village official would spend his time more wisely and get to the business of representing the RESIDENTS and doing the work that we deem fruitful.
Versiglio said: “I was wondering when you plan to comuiocate with all the Village residents not just the ones that read the blog”
What is “comuiocate” ?
In case you haven’t noticed “Grumpy old man,” there is a counter to the left on the blog. Like it or not its tally is very telling, a couple hundred viewers are reading daily! I think Laurie is doing a wonderful job and not even getting paid! With that being said “Gramps,” I have yet to see you as a paid Village employee aka Trustee do something positive for “US” the residents of this Village. All we get is whining about meeting minutes missing verbiage, creating rules for “THEM” other Trustees, and now whining about the blog! No one cares and it is a waste of valuable time! I feel my tax dollars are ill spent on this Village employee aka Trustee, as he has not lived up to the expected or required standard, e.g. of behavior or competence to “US” the Village residents. Please get off your soap boxes and MOVE ON TO VILLAGE BUSINESS it’s what you were “APPOINTED” to do!
PS does the Village get a senior citizens discount for having Grumpy on the board?
Hey Verciglio, this blog IS available to ALL residents. ALL residents that have an interest, internet access and can type CBGIL.
The blog has been mentioned in a few newspapers for those that have not heard through "word of mouth".
If you don't have internet access at home, there's always the library.
Jim Shoe said ...
"I personally would not make a big deal out of
Verciglio. You might do better to ignore him.
This is coming from an individual that was appointed as Mayor Herrmann's hit man to do her dirty work. Verciglio, I believe, I spelled it correct, has problems with sentence structure and spelling. He will criticize you if you spell his name wrong. He has never amounted to anything his whole life and this is his crowning achievement being a trustee with power. He certainly likes to wield his scepter to try to intimidate people. My advice is to just ignore him. His intelligence is duly lacking".
Absolfrikkenloutley.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-YJyGJQx2Fgk/seinfeld_the_soup_nazi/
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=306679
What was Nazism? Primarily, it was fascism. What is fascism? An excerpt from Wikipedia:
Fascism: Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state. Fascist governments forbid and suppress criticism and opposition to the government and the fascist movement.
Sound familiar readers?
I find this statement in the Daily Herald interesting: “Verciglio said that as a proud veteran he is very upset at being called a Nazi.”
My father is 82 years old. He volunteered for duty in 1943 at the age of 16 with the permission of my grandmother and served with distinction. Like many of his fellow servicemen, including my uncles, none of them ever played the “service card”. Their service was rarely, if ever talked about. They were needed by their country, did their duty as honorable citizens, and then came home to the equally honorable duty of their familial and professional lives. Never once did they feel the need to leverage their egos or try to assert themselves by referencing their service as ANY kind of defense. My father’s personal actions and character, and those of his brothers-in-arms, whether in personal life or in service, stand alone as testament to their great character and sense of duty. Anyone who would use past service and The Flag to aggrandize themselves, to excuse any failure, or as a shield to deflect valid personal criticism would be anathema to them. But that was another time, another place. They WERE the Greatest Generation.
Unless Verciglio is at least 80 years old, I would have to believe he had served in a conflict other than WWII. While it’s possible that his statement was meant to infer specific sympathies, it may also be that the inference was not his own, but that of the reporter. However, had he not brought it up at all, it wouldn’t have been mentioned.
My father, Verciglio and all of our valued servicemen and women have fought and continue to fight against despotic regimes of all sorts, from fascism to caliphates. These amazing heroes preserve not only our democratic freedoms at home, but also selflessly win those freedoms for other peoples all over the world. No mere words can adequately describe my feelings for them, nor the debt of gratitude I owe them all.
While I have my own views on this statement in the Daily Herald and its subject, I am also all too well aware of what my father’s views on this are as well. His views are my own. The United States Armed Services and the Constitution under which they serve exist to ensure a free democratically governed populace. This purpose can only be served and preserved by transparent means, i.e.; free information, free speech, free elections and free thought. By playing the “service card” in defense of his and The Herd’s political views and actions, which can arguably be considered to be fascist by definitive terms, Verciglio cheapens and demeans the sacrifice of all who serve, including his own. All such sacrifice is badly utilized to defend oneself from metaphorically accurate and valid personal criticism.
DBTR
NOTE: THIS IS AN EMAIL I SENT TO THE MAYOR AND ALL TRUSTEES TODAY.
Mr. Verciglio,
Thank you for attaching a copy of the IT and VOIL website “Support Services Agreement” from Baxter and Woodman. Is this the complete agreement?
This service agreement is divided into sections labeled Attachments A, B, C and D. These four sections appear to be generic in nature and basically define agreement conditions, rate structure, hours spent by B&W and owner’s equipment covered under attachment “D”.
I read the entire contract and was very curious to know how much equipment is covered in Attachment “D” (Covered Equipment).
I was very surprised to find Attachment “D” completely blank. Can you explain please? I cannot believe that the Village would spend nearly $24,000 on a Support Services Agreement without listing the vital computer equipment to be covered.
Can you or someone from the Village provide this “Covered Equipment” list so everyone can understand the full measure of this agreement?
I understand that the Administration is new and must be given time to get a handle on all issues the Village faces. Most are trying and I hope you join in that effort, especially in respect to the right of residents to speak out and ask questions of their elected leaders.
As I have repeatedly stated, I have no personal issues with anyone and can appreciate the difficulties confronted in effective governance...so please don't misinterpret my comments.
Thank you,
Joe Ptak
Obviously, Versiglio feels embarrassed at being exposed for who he is and the methods he employs.
My father ran the HR department for the headquarters of a Fortune 100 company. He is a strong man who would never do anything behind someone's back. He wouldn't run around behind the scenes telling tales, plotting, or backstabbing. He wouldn't bother curring favor with others, trying to win them over to his side to enhance his hand or control in a matter.
Nope, he'd come right out and say what he thinks publicly, secure in his beliefs and acts. He doesn't care what anyone else knows about his motives or acts as they are all out in the open for anyone to see. If you conduct yourself openly with honesty and integrity, you needn't worry over your reputation.
If you would wish to join him in thinking similarly on an issue, you're free to do so of your own volition. Similarly, you are also free to have an opposing view. As long as you are logical and informed, and are willing to debate, you can earn his respect.
If you feel threatened by opposing views, by the free flow of facts and information getting out, or are worried about popular support (or lack thereof), you need to review your motivations for your actions. You cannot engage in behaviors for which you will be publicly embarrassed if you wish to have any self-respect. And without self-respect, you can't command the respect of anyone else.
DBTR
Hi Joe -
Notice though, that Verciglio nor anyone else has yet to address the detail line of web support at 10 hours for $1,000, or $100 per hour.
What does that get us, exactly?
Once again, no transparency, NOT EVEN TO AN ELECTED TRUSTEE.
So on one hand, little or no information is given, then on the other hand, they become crybabies because the information isn't out there.
They bawl about an "unauthorized" website putting out information, but refuse to create one themselves.
Of course, Laurie is correct in her cultural references to the slang usage of the word “Nazi”. As with “Soup Nazi”, so she correctly refers to “Blog Nazi”. DUH! And there are others:
Wiki Nazi: A loser with too much time on their hands - spending that time at the Wikipedia editing pages making changes to fit their own personal philosophy and politics ….. that's POV censorship and the act of a Wiki Nazi.
And so:
Blog Nazi: A loser with too much time on their hands - spending that time clogging fellow Trustees’ email boxes with snippy pronouncements, complaining about publicly-shared views, information and commentary that don’t fit their own personal philosophy and politics ….. that's POV censorship and the act of a Blog Nazi. (Fascism)
And then there are all the Nazis with which we are all familiar - Smoking Nazis, Parking Nazis, Fitness Nazis, Environmental Nazis, etc. Prohibitionists all.
Essentially someone obsessed by what THEY view to be transgressions against what THEY view to be the rightful order of things. Apparently, The Herd views the idea of open government and free-flowing information to be in opposition to the rightful order of things. Like the humorous use of prototypical, sclerotic “establishment white Southerners” in the commercials for the then-new Tropicana Twister drinks (mixing multiple fruit juices together), when being asked to comment on the new order of things, they would intone, “It just ain’t right!”
DBTR
Hi DBTR,
As always, I enjoy reading your comments.
Being a "Baby Boomer", I always find it difficult to live up to the character, expectations and accomplishments of the "Greatest Generation". I'm certain I'm not alone in this regard.
The squabbles in this town are so trivial in comparison.
>>>> "She can be a blogger or trustee, not both," Verciglio said.
Your opinion. Fact – it’s the new order of things. The blogoshpere is chock full of elected officials. In 15 easy minutes Don, you can have your own. Of course, you’d have to be thinking for yourself.
>>>> “I was wondering when you plan to communicate with all the Village residents and not just the residents that read the blog?”
Deflection. When are YOU and The Herd going to communicate with Village residents at all? Laurie’s making an attempt here – she reaches far more people than you do and provides them with whatever information you allow her (and by extension, us) to have. You guys are firmly opposed to “opening up the file cabinets”.
Oh, I get it now! (Smacks forehead) You want Laurie to build and maintain the Village Website! How cool for Laurie! She’ll be the one getting $100 per hour! WHOOO WHOO Laurie! LOL!
>>>> “You were elected to represent all the residents of Island Lake, not just the ones you choose too (sic).”
Well, DUH! But how about you, Donnie Boy? Up until your appointment last term, you seemed solely concerned with representing only The Herd, and only the interests of the Hyde Family, particularly Sharon and Brady.
>>>> “You continue to refer on your blog that you are talking to all residents.”
And this is the new public square. She’s been talking, and anyone’s free to drop in and listen and comment. And now that she’s a Trustee, a lot of what she would like to discuss has to be said here. At least here, she or other commentators can’t be gaveled! The Herd has their own point of view, and other groups have theirs.
To the extent that no one is allowed to discuss Garling’s residency, Creative Playtime, the Water Tower, or various other issues in the meetings, where do you expect these discussions to take place?
>>>> “This is an incorrect statement unless you can provide the names of the over 8,000 residents have (sic) gone to your blog. please (sic) remove the reference to all residents.”
Give US a list of the 8,000 residents that have attended Board meetings, or who actually read the Newsletter. You have no greater right to communicate, or to be successful at it than Laurie.
>>>> “As a trustee your (sic) should be dealing with all the residents not just the readers of your blog.”
Translation: You should be forced to include opposing viewpoints, i.e.; the Island Lake Fairness Doctrine.
If your viewpoints are not popular, it’s not our problem – it’s yours. If you guys don’t want to engage in any discussion or debate, or provide adequate information and transparency, how is that Laurie’s problem?
DBTR
PRECISELY JOE!
For Vercigio to invoke "privilege" over trivial matters, to whine about the very free speech he served for, emasculates him
Joe Ptak said...
Hi DBTR,
"As always, I enjoy reading your comments".
Yesssss!!! I hungrily look forward to DBTR's comments like I looked forward to reading Royko.
It's obvious to anyone that reads this persons comments that he's a NATURAL.
Writing is an art, and you DBTR, are THE artist! You are the type of writer that inspires people to READ because it isn't a chore, it's pure pleasure.
"For Vercigio to invoke "privilege" over trivial matters, to whine about the very free speech he served for, emasculates him"
To be used as a tool by Herrmann is also emasculating.
What a weenie.
The story on the Daily Herald web page about Laurie's latest is not in the printed newspaper this a.m. which is always the case?????? Could it be that the editors realized readers may not see the humor in Laurie's choice of words and not all newspaper readers are of the seinfeld generation but too many are of the WWII generation?
Laurie & followers champion the freedom of speech to suit their purposes choosing to ignore the fact that does not mean you can say whatever you want to whomever you want where ever you want.
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that “Congress
shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press....” This
language restricts government both more and less than it would if it were applied
literally. It restricts government more in that it applies not only to Congress, but to
all branches of the federal government, and to all branches of state and local
government.
The Supreme Court has interpreted the guarantee of
freedom of speech and press to provide no protection or only limited protection for
some types of speech. For example, the Court has decided that the First Amendment
provides no protection to obscenity, child pornography, or speech that constitutes
“advocacy of the use of force or of law violation ... where such advocacy is directed
to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce
such action.”
I see nothing wrong with Laurie's comments, according to our laws. Your opinion of what she should or shouldn't say may differ, but she did nothing wrong according to the law. She has freedom of speech as a citizen as well as an elected official.
Could it also be that after being breathlessly fed a "Nazi" story, that the editors, upon review of what is actually a "Blog Nazi" story, decided Laurie's opinion was essentially accurate and thus, no controversy?
Island Lake a village run by buffoons;
that is really what this is all about. We have people running our village that have never amounted to anything in life and this appears to be their moment in time of glory. They relish in the fact that they have all this power which is a huge ego builder for them. I would assume they were controlled all their lives or were at the bottom of their class and now have the need to control.
I would ask Don or Big eyes or whatever he is calling himself today if he is a veteran, which side was he on? Certainly not ours. No, not all 8000 plus people of Island Lake read the blog, then why is it so important to control what is printed? It is apparent that a lot of people inside and outside of our village are reading it by the hit-o-meter. We do know that the newspaper reporters are looking at it and probably the Lake county district Attorney. Connie is worried that the new FOIA law will open all the locked file cabinets for all to see. When is Mayor Herrmann going to send out her "up yours" e-mail again? I think what we have here is those that want open and transparent government and those that want secrecy and hidden agendas. They do not want to be challenged on their deeds.
I found the following comment on the Daily Herald under the article that appeared on their website and although funny, it is very close to the truth about nazism. The writer should have added that Guido is the mInister of Police uniform. Speaking of Guido, why did Herrmann invite him to sit at the table of a committee meeting? Does she need another hatchet man? But at what price Debbie? Will you have to cover up his stupor's while driving? Maybe Don can be his private chauffeur?
Thank you Laurie for showing us what is going on behind the scenes in our government.
What the three little pigs have to say about Nazi-ism and the Second Reich, starring Mayor Frau Herrmann Minister of Economics and Car Washes, Verboten Versiglio Minister of Propaganda, Gestapo Guido, Socialist Heretic Richard Gorling, Benito "Connie" Mascillinio President Council of Ministers, Frau Hennie Hyde Himmler Minister of Preschool Education, Fritz "Frank" DeCrook Minister of Building, Herr Heinrich Hyde Himmler Minister of Alcohol Control and General Willey Doolittle Minister of Public Werks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEcJF0EVT54&feature=related
Verboten Versiglio
1. forbidden, prohibited, banned
A loanword with connotations of state authoritarianism, derived from a perception of the German Empire under Wilhelm II or Nazi Germany
blog nazi
A person who tries to fanatically control, i.e. "to exercise restraint or direction over; dominate; command," or "to eliminate or prevent the flourishing or spread of", the content of their own or others' blogs
Includes the following conduct:
Comment Approval Required -- I've seen the term "blog nazi" used in relation to people who have their blogs set so that the blogger must approve all comments. In fact, that is the context in which I remember first seeing the term soon after I joined Myspace. One point made by those who have used the term in reference to these bloggers is that the practice stifles free speech. It's censorship at its finest. It goes way beyond deleting comments that are offensive or unacceptable to the blogger, because it ensures that the information never reaches the general public for comment, at all, if the blogger so chooses. It's the ultimate control over one's own blog and comments.
I love Island Lake blog????
Versiglio is nothing more than Debbies little worm boy and Guido is her little worm boy in waiting. Debbie is using these guys with such a low self esteem to say things she would like to say, but won't because she even knows it's wrong. The worm boys are expendible like fish bait. Wiggle on your little hooks boys!
WAT?
NO SOUP?
Hey Joe,
I read Royko too! Thought I was too young? I was reading him since I learned to read. I cherish his published books. In fact, I'm less than a foot from Sez Who? Sez ME. I loved that man! And probably got a little bit of my "say what's on my mind" from him too; mostly from my Dad, but a little from Mike and a few others in print and radio/tv talk show arena.
Joe,
Did you love Bob Collins too? He's actually in a family collage of mine. He's my uncle Bob! (only people familiar with BC will understand)
Actually Laurie, that was me that posted that I looked forward to reading Royko ... I think DBTR is as good a writer as he was.
Thanks Karen12359,
Laurie had me searching to try and figure out where I mentioned Royko.
FYI Laurie, growingup in Chicago I definitely enjoyed reading and learning from the likes of Mike Royko and Studs Turkel. Frankly, I always related to a Slats Grobnik type of person.
Bob Collins was too sophisticated for me.
My modern day favorite radio talk show host is Mike Savage (warning: his show contains psychological nudity).
Hope you are feeling better.
Gotta love that DBTR.
Karen & Joe,
Ok, that gets a little confusing when you copy/paste from somewhere else...I get it now, Karen, of course you would read Royko...and Joe, I'm blown away that you listen to Michael Savage. But hey we learn something new every day. But to listen to Michael Savage and say Bob Collins was too sophisticated???? I need a dictionary when listening to Savage; oh wait, no I don't because he is sure to explain the english definition as well as the Hebrew and the greek and so on and on of all of his "big" words as well as their roots, etc... I listen to him too :-) However, Bob was such a tell it like it is guy with a dog named booger and wore jeans, a plaid shirt and suspenders...nothing sophisticated there. One of the last radio shows with Bob, he had an outright yelling match with I believe Bobby Rush. That may have been his second to last broadcast. The day we (WGN listeners) waited for him to answer his pager or phone was the longest, hardest and in the end, saddest day for Chicago AM radio listeners. I remember exactly what I was doing that afternoon.
Ok, I'm just doing a little reminiscing over a much missed to this day morning guy. I love talk radio and I'm proud of it. :-) However less WGN these days and more WIND 560.
>>>I love talk radio and I'm proud of it. :-) However less WGN these days and more WIND 560...LAURIE
Glad to hear this Laurie.
As far as I'm concerned, WIND 560 AM Station definitely has the most educated, intelligent thought provoking people on talk radio from noon to midnight.
However, I would not recommend listening to this station if you consider yourself a Liberal, pro big government, unpatriotic, anti Jewish, pro abortion, anti military, gay marriage advocate, pro higher taxes, socialist individual(Democrat or Republican).
Have to admit Savage is out of his mind at times!
DBTR said...
"To the extent that no one is allowed to discuss Garling’s residency, Creative Playtime, the Water Tower, or various other issues in the meetings, where do you expect these discussions to take place"?
Creative Playtime will have it's day.
Any new information on the water tower, or when Garling no longer lived in the Village? It was weeks before the election according to witnesses.
It would appear that Verciglio is the head of Hermann's SS Gestapo. (shutup stupid=SS) He is her mouthpiece to tell us all to shut up and let Deb do what she wants and avoid revealing things like, watertower, when Garling left town, etc. etc. etc.
I hope Sleepy gets a nice new SS uniform to go with his new job for Debbie.
(remember it is the Shutup Stupid service)
This guy is really some piece o’ work! His behavior clearly represents his lack of respect for village residents.
I was surprised that not only did he ask a resident to correct himself, but the resident is one who has publically supported him.
I guess so much for reciprocating good will.
Let’s not forget either, that about a year or so ago this man DEMANDED, Laurie (as a resident) apologize to the pyrotechnical company and the village board; for inquiring about the cost of last year’s fireworks.
I suppose he thought this was inappropriate, since Laurie was ONLY a resident and not a village “Big Cheese” like himself at the time.
I am eagerly looking forward to the time, when he will take is shoe off and bang on the board table (the ol’ Nikita Khrushchev trick).
Verciglio should join AA. Not Alcoholics Anonymous, rather Apologies Anonymous.
Isn't Garlings court date sometime this month?
Oh, yeah "Slappy Sluggo" or "Sluggo Slappy" (There's another SS there GW), I almost forgot about him.
I do believe he is scheduled for trial this month. I’ll have to repost my Top Ten Excuses for him to tell the judge.
If someone can give me the date, maybe Mrs. Fingers can whip up a big batch of popcorn, just fun the event.
DownByTheRiver said...
What was Nazism? Primarily, it was fascism. What is fascism? An excerpt from Wikipedia:
Fascism: Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state. Fascist governments forbid and suppress criticism and opposition to the government and the fascist movement.
Sound familiar readers?
I find this statement in the Daily Herald interesting: “Verciglio said that as a proud veteran he is very upset at being called a Nazi.”
My father is 82 years old. He volunteered for duty in 1943 at the age of 16 with the permission of my grandmother and served with distinction. Like many of his fellow servicemen, including my uncles, none of them ever played the “service card”. Their service was rarely, if ever talked about. They were needed by their country, did their duty as honorable citizens, and then came home to the equally honorable duty of their familial and professional lives. Never once did they feel the need to leverage their egos or try to assert themselves by referencing their service as ANY kind of defense. My father’s personal actions and character, and those of his brothers-in-arms, whether in personal life or in service, stand alone as testament to their great character and sense of duty. Anyone who would use past service and The Flag to aggrandize themselves, to excuse any failure, or as a shield to deflect valid personal criticism would be anathema to them. But that was another time, another place. They WERE the Greatest Generation.
Unless Verciglio is at least 80 years old, I would have to believe he had served in a conflict other than WWII. While it’s possible that his statement was meant to infer specific sympathies, it may also be that the inference was not his own, but that of the reporter. However, had he not brought it up at all, it wouldn’t have been mentioned.
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Very strange that you would take exception to him declaring himself a veteran. You think it is wrong?
You had absolutely NO PROBLEM at all crying from the treetops about how Greg Katchka was a disabled veteran. You probably posted about it at least daily when you were trying to shove him down the voters throats. It got to the point that it seemed to be part of his nane, Greg Disabled Vet Katchka.
Now when it is not one of your kool aid drinkers saying it, you really have a problem with it.
Speaks volumes about your true intent.
It was mentioned that Greg Kachka was a veteran because he was wearing his SCARY MARINE CORPS TEE SHIRT. He wasn't using his veteran status to be a big pussy like Verciglio. Get real!
Thank you Karen.
I guess if I were to be more succinct, YES, I'm sayin' that my Dad wouldn't hesitate to tell Verciglio to his face,
PUSSY!
So you are saying he was not using the "disabled vet" thing trying to get sympathy? Did not hear too many people here saying that he was not disabled while serving though, huh? Are you saying that he did not use it in his political campaign in an attempt to get elected? Do I need to go back and pull up his response to the herald? He had no background to say why he would be a good trustee, so he pulls out the disable vet card and everyone on the blog was fine with it then!
Can't have it both ways Karen! Can't be fine with Katchka riding it for all he was worth (not too much!) then get pissed off when someone you do not like uses it too after a JUNIOR TRUSTEE CALLS HIM A NAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sagen Sie DA, denken wir Wir ypur eine Muschi und ein stummer Arsch!
Can't have it both ways Karen! Can't be fine with Katchka riding it for all he was worth (not too much!) then get pissed off when someone you do not like uses it too after a JUNIOR TRUSTEE CALLS HIM A NAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
**What B.S.!!!!
You're talking 2 very different sets of circumstances.
Verciglio wants Laurie to name the eight thousand residents because she uses the word "all" on her blog. When he's asked to name the eight thousand residents that attend meetings, or read the newsletter, his stupidity, hypocracy, and childish behavior smacks him full in the face.
He wants to be a BLOG nazi, he's called out on it, so he uses the "veteran card". That is being the extreme pussy, even more so than his childish behavior. He's an embarassment to himself, senior citizens and veterans.
He's a blustering bag of bullshit.
Tell me DA, don't you find it disturbing that Garling didn't live in the village before, during and after the election and certain people knew this? That Garling and the herd were posting that Laurie filed for bankrupcy but failed to mention Verciglio did too?
AGAIN, the reason it was mentioned that Kachka was a veteran is because he was wearing his "SCARY" MARINE CORPS TEE SHIRT. HE WAS ARRESTED FOR "RAPID FIRING" HIS FINGER. WATCH THE TAPE!!!!!IT WAS A MANUFACTURED LIE TO TEACH HIM A LESSON ABOUT ASKING QUESTIONS THE HERD DOESN'T LIKE.
WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good job Kilroy! Keeping up the standards that people come to expect from this blog! Don't have an actual point to make, call them a pussy and a dumb ass! By the way, you misspelled it!
As for Down By The River, I do not think your dad would call him a pussy to his face. From behind a hidden nickname on the internet? Well, you must have learned it from somewhere, so your daddy was probably a keyboard cowboy too, just like his son. No real thoughts come to mind, call them dirty names, right?
Par for course on this blog, par for course. After all, the blog is ran by someone that never served calling a vet that did serve a Nazi.
No DA, it's par for the course for you to spin, spin, spin.
As for Down By The River, I do not think your dad would call him a pussy to his face. From behind a hidden nickname on the internet? Well, you must have learned it from somewhere, so your daddy was probably a keyboard cowboy too, just like his son.
## I suppose DA is your REAL name right? Talk about keyboard cowboys... pot and kettle statement of the day.
Verciglio, the fine upstanding veteran he is, galliantly fought for our rights to free speech!
Thank You Don!
Now practice what you preach!
As for Karen, She is so fucked up it is hard to know where to start! She doesn't even live in Island lake but is so obsessed with it that she spends her days reading this blog, ready to pounce with name calling anybody that does not tow the kool aid drinking line.
Remember Karen, people judge you by the words you use. What do you think about trash that call people pussies, dumb asses, etc.? Do they think they are uneducated buffoons that can't hold an intelligent conversation without resorting to schoolyard insults and behavior? I bet they do! "How old are you Verciglio? Reliving your high school days? This is equal to putting Lauries pigtails in the inkwell." I do not read him calling people dirty names like you do. Who is reliving her school days?
Thank you for living up to the fine example people come to expect from this blog!
"Remember Karen, people judge you by the words you use. What do you think about trash that call people pussies, dumb asses, etc.? Do they think they are uneducated buffoons that can't hold an intelligent conversation without resorting to schoolyard insults and behavior"?
##This is how he starts:
"As for Karen, She is so fucked up"
##Another fine pot and kettle statement of the day!!
Uh, Karen? Do you see me calling you dirty names like you and the other keyboard cowboys are doing? I think not!
Maybe you should go out and get a job instead of obsessing over a town's politics where you do not even live. Either that or get your head shrinker to up your meds!
Now that you have totally muddied the waters of the actual point to the thread, why do you bloggers love to sing the praises of one vet for being a vet, yet shamelessly bash another vet for the same thing? Practice what YOU preach, bloggers!
LMAO!!!!!!!
DA said...
"Uh, Karen? Do you see me calling you dirty names like you and the other keyboard cowboys are doing? I think not"!
""As for Karen, She is so fucked up"
DA said...
"Maybe you should go out and get a job"
##You must work nights ...
LMAO
DA said...
"Thank you for living up to the fine example people come to expect from this blog"!
""As for Karen, She is so fucked up"
##And thank you, DA, for the laugh today ... I needed that! ;)
OK, you want to drag it down into the dirt and play with the pigs?
You are a stupid cunt that needs to get fucked if she could find someone drunk enough to do the dirty deed without committing suicide.
Did that add anything to the discussion? Absolutely not! Why discuss things on this blog when you can just trade juvenile insults, right Karen? The more the merrier!
Still leaves the unanswered question of why you cut down one vet for him saying he is a vet while when another guy says he is a vet, you put him on a pedestal and try to con people into voting him to the board as a trustee! He got the least amount of votes, right? I bet you would have been overjoyed if he was appointed to the board, yet you had a huge problem when the highest vote getter not to get elected gets appointed.
Can you say double standards? Say it all together now! DOUBLE STANDARDS!!!
DA said ...
"Do they think they are uneducated buffoons that can't hold an intelligent conversation without resorting to schoolyard insults and behavior"?
"As for Karen, She is so fucked up"
Karen, I know it is hard for you to understand complex explanations, so I will slow it down for you.
Saying someone is fucked up is not the same as calling somebody a pussy, or a fat ass, or a Nazi.
Adios! Unlike you, some of us actually work for a living and can't spend 24 hours obsessing over a blog. Catch you later
DA said ...
"Can you say double standards? Say it all together now! DOUBLE STANDARDS"!!!
"As for Karen, She is so fucked up"
DA said...
"Saying someone is fucked up is not the same as calling somebody a pussy, or a fat ass, or a Nazi".
"Did that add anything to the discussion? Absolutely not! Why discuss things on this blog when you can just trade juvenile insults"
"As for Karen, She is so fucked up"
DA,I know it is hard for you to understand complex explanations, so I will slow it down for you.
It was not mentioned that Kachka was a veteran until it was explained to the police that the "SCARY" tee shirt he was wearing was a MARINE CORPS tee shirt, and he is a marine. Get it yet?
Verciglio takes the term BLOG nazi and tries to make a stir over it (and sympathy) to attempt to cast Laurie in a bad light, for using terminology that is accepted and understood to make a point.
Now get back to work!
Ve vill fock you op!
Karen12359 said...
DA,I know it is hard for you to understand complex explanations, so I will slow it down for you.
It was not mentioned that Kachka was a veteran until it was explained to the police that the "SCARY" tee shirt he was wearing was a MARINE CORPS tee shirt, and he is a marine. Get it yet?
Verciglio takes the term BLOG nazi and tries to make a stir over it (and sympathy) to attempt to cast Laurie in a bad light, for using terminology that is accepted and understood to make a point.
Now get back to work!
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So what part did him being DISABLED have to do with it? How are you going to spin that one? How many dozens of time was it brought up that Katchka was a "disabled veteran" as if he was disabled while serving his country?
And why would ANYBODY take exception to someone who was called a NAZI to say it upset him especially since he is a VETERAN that served to protect the Country of the people that are now calling him a NAZI!!!!
You have no problem with Katchka saying it because he was wearing a marine T-shirt
You have a big problem with Versiglio when he says "Hey, it upsets me when you call me a NAZI when I proudly served our Country"
DBTR said "Never once did they feel the need to leverage their egos or try to assert themselves by referencing their service as ANY kind of defense." as an insult to Versiglio even bringing it up. Never heard DBTR complain at all about the fact that Katcha is wearing t-shirts of marine snipers, baseball caps proclaiming he was a marine, and spouting to whoever would listen he is a disable vet. Heck, he even used the veteran card to try and get elected as trustee! I don't trying to cash in on being a veteran to try and get elected, do you?
To paraphrase DBTR:
By playing the “service card” in an attempt to win an election as trustee, Katchka cheapens and demeans the sacrifice of all who serve, including his own. All such sacrifice is badly utilized to further his own agenda of getting elected.
Saved the best for last:
DA said...
"Saying someone is fucked up is not the same as calling somebody a pussy, or a fat ass, or a Nazi".
DA said ...
"So what part did him being DISABLED have to do with it? How are you going to spin that one? How many dozens of time was it brought up that Katchka was a "disabled veteran" as if he was disabled while serving his country"?
**Where to start!
Have you viewed the tape? Are you saying it's ok for Kachka, a disabled veteran, to stand at a meeting, ask uncomfortable (for the herd) questions, and be arrested 2 weeks later for "rapid firing" his finger while wearing his "scary" Marine Corps tee shirt?
I bet if you called Kachka a nazi, he wouldn't bawl and squall like Verciglio is doing, or use his status of "veteran".
The difference is, DA, and I'll type slowly for you, no one has made false police reports, had Verciglio arrested, and make him pay for legal fees to defend himself and put him through hell because they are hell bent on revenge and attempting to shut him up. Quite the contrary, Verciglio would like nothing more than to shut this blog down and quell free speech. Now that isn't very American is it?
Good job of completely turning this thread away from the actual subject of the thread Karen!
DBTR says that Verciglio should not have mentioned that he was a veteran after being called a Nazi. I commented that it was funny that you had no problem with one of your guys doing the exact same thing. Actually took it a lot further the Verciglio did. How many times did Katcha mention it in news articles? Too many to count.
Typical of this blog, from Laurie on down, that when somebody says anything that the bloggers do not like, do they respond with contstructive responses? No. They immediately start attacking them personally and/or calling them names.
Laurie said in the very first sentence of this thread:
"Borrowing a reference from the popular sitcom, Seinfeld, I have been attacked by what I consider, in my opinion, the village "Blog Nazi," none other than Trustee Verciglio."
NOWHERE in the C/P of his emails do I see him calling Laurie names, do you? Yet Laurie, an elected official for the village, immediately reverts to calling him names!
I guess that is why it is so well tolerated by the other bloggers. You are just following her example....
Gregory J. Kachka
Age: 61
Office sought: Island Lake trustee
Bio: Retired from U.S. Post Office; Military service, 1966-1970
I wish I were a veteran. It might help me get laid
Jackboots and a top-of-the-line Mercedes help, too!
Hey, looky what I found in Heir Hippo’s office while all of you kept her busy.
Von: Bürgermeister Herrmann
An: Alle Blogger
Für diese Frechheit, Sie schreiben hundert Mal, "Ich bin ein Mann faul", und dann lassen Sie es für meine Schoßhund "Sleepy" zu unterzeichnen!
Went to the Google translation page.
Für diese Frechheit, Sie schreiben hundert Mal, "Ich bin ein Mann faul", und dann lassen Sie es für meine Schoßhund "Sleepy" zu unterzeichnen!
It means:
For this insolence, you write a hundred times, "I am a lazy man", and then leave it for my lap dog "Sleepy" to sign!
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